As the government shutdown stretches deeper into the new year, national parks across the country are seeing the impact.
While parks have stayed open during the shutdown, with some emergency workers and rangers still working, much of the parks鈥 staff are not, meaning there is no one to clean bathrooms, empty the trash, enforce rules or collect entrance fees. At Joshua Tree National Park in Southern California, campgrounds were closed Wednesday after some of the vault toilets, which do not flush, reached capacity.
Dozens of volunteers have stepped in to help clean bathrooms and get rid of trash, including John Lauretig, a retired law enforcement ranger at the park and executive director of the nonprofit .Lauretig has been to the park at least a dozen times in the past 10 days, and while it is in 鈥淥K鈥 condition, he says the longer the shutdown continues, 鈥渢he more the park needs its real maintenance people in there to do their jobs.鈥
鈥淲e are trying to stem the tide so to speak and try and [keep] the bathrooms as clean as we can keep them and the trash bins as empty as we can,鈥 Lauretig tells Here & Now鈥檚 Lisa Mullins. 鈥淲ith the amount of visitation we have right now over the holidays, tens of thousands of people pour into the park, and the day-to-day maintenance in those bathrooms needs to happen.鈥
Concerns over long-term damages are common for national parks across the country, says , senior budget director of the nonprofit National Parks Conservation Association, an advocacy group aimed at protecting the national parks.
According to Garder, those impacted the worst 鈥 Shenandoah and Yosemite national parks, the Grand Canyon and others in the Southwest 鈥 are seeing similar kinds of damages as Joshua Tree: 鈥渙verflowing trash bins, human waste in inappropriate places, altercations over parking spots and other impacts that 鈥 are a threat to visitor and wildlife safety as well as the protection of the natural and cultural resources.鈥
鈥淭he best thing would be for all parks to open entirely with decision-makers coming to an agreement,鈥 he says. 鈥淚t鈥檚 really not a situation that should have happened to begin with.鈥
Interview Highlights
On what volunteers at Joshua Tree National Park are doing to help, and how much of a dent volunteers at parks across the U.S. are making
John Lauretig: 鈥淲ell, for folks that are not able to come up into the park and help us, they鈥檝e been donating money and materials. We have one of the local outfitter shops, Nomad [Ventures], as a repository for people to drop off supplies 鈥 whether it鈥檚 trash bags, toilet paper, gloves, cleaning supplies. And then every morning at 10 o鈥檆lock, we meet up, we distribute those supplies and send folks out to different parts of the park to sweep up, clean up and restock the pit toilets that are all up in the park.
鈥淚鈥檝e been getting messages from people who are visiting the park on vacation saying they want to help out. But there鈥檚 a lot of local folks too that just love Joshua Tree National Park and the high desert itself and want to keep the park as clean and as great as it is today, tomorrow and in the future.鈥
John Garder: 鈥淲e really commend the volunteers who鈥檝e been helping to try to take care of parks and make sure that visitors have a safe and enjoyable time. The problem is that it鈥檚 a really unsustainable situation and unfair to ask them to use their limited resources to step in to try to serve the role of the park service.鈥
Lauretig, on the damage being caused to the park and how some of it may be unintentional
鈥淚 think most of the folks just don鈥檛 know the rules. The national parks run on special rules and regulations 鈥 they鈥檙e trying to preserve their areas for future generations. Most of the folks in the park, 99 percent, are doing just what they need to do, but with this volume of people we have in the park, traffic is a problem, parking is a problem, I鈥檝e heard of some vandalism 鈥 I haven鈥檛 seen any. But the longer this shutdown goes down, the more at risk are cultural and natural resources are in the park. 鈥
鈥淲ith the holidays, the visitation in the park is just phenomenal. There鈥檚 people parking everywhere, so I鈥檝e seen this kind of visitation before, and I鈥檓 actually surprised at the minimal amount of damage or the minimal amount of problems that are happening in the park. But it doesn鈥檛 take but one person to drive off road into the desert, and then that desert is scarred for years to come.鈥
Lauretig, on the valuable artifacts in Joshua Tree and other national parks that are unprotected right now
鈥淲e have cultural history of peoples using this land for thousands of years, so we have rock art and pottery shards and all kinds of different historic evidence of people living in the past. We also have a rich mining history, and there is plenty of mining sites with all kinds of historic features in those mining sites too, and some of those are remote, so you can鈥檛 really check them on a daily basis, but I鈥檓 just hoping that now with no or minimal law enforcement presence at those sites, [they] are remaining just the way they are. 鈥
鈥淭here [are] other parks that have just a gold mine of artifacts and resources that are basically unprotected right now, and I would hate to see those pieces of our history and heritage disappear during this shutdown. So if folks can come to gather and volunteer for their federal lands that are in distress right now in need of help, that would be great.鈥
Garder, on whether it would be better for national parks to be closed outright, and how they are being impacted
鈥淯nlike the 16-day shutdown in 2013, this administration elected to take an approach that would allow for partial closures of a number of parks.
鈥淥ur estimate is that the park system is losing somewhere in the order of $400,000 a day. So when you do the math, it鈥檚 over $4 million that they鈥檝e lost so far, and that鈥檚 money that they really need. 鈥
鈥淥ne colleague of mine at the Grand Canyon observed that the park concessionaire was having difficulty keeping up with plowing the roads, which was creating a dangerous situation. And while he was there, there was an accident with a truck going off the road and hitting a car.鈥
Garder, on how park rangers are faring
鈥淩angers are of course very demoralized right now, because they want to be in the parks serving visitors and protecting them, but they are coming into this situation where they鈥檙e already challenged. Over the last several years, we鈥檝e seen an 11 percent reduction in park service staff due to underfunding. But at the same time, there鈥檚 been a 19 percent increase in visitation.鈥
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